Description: Don't indulge the block.
Question: The Craft of Writing
Transcript: I’m Co-Executive Producer of the “Daily Show” with Jon Stewart. And I’m basically an enabler for Jon. You know he’s . . . Jon, in a way, doesn’t really need anybody else. But you know there are a few of us who are there to kind of help out. So I . . . I write material for him. I help shape material that other people write for him. I, you know . . . We sit around and we come up with what’s going to be on the show and this and that – me, him and a few other people. That’s . . . I . . . I . . . I think enabling is . . . is . . . is . . . is the proper verb. I’m Jon’s wing man, but he’s got a couple.
Question: What was it like to go from writing for cartoons to writing for people?
Transcript: It’s a lot more exciting to write for people. It’s a lot more immediate. The . . . One of . . . You know it can be very boring writing for cartoons because it basically takes . . . you write it and then a year later you see it. With . . . with . . . especially at the “Daily Show”, you’re putting on a daily show. It’s really that old show business, “let’s put on a show”, and you’re cranking it out that night. And if it’s good, great. But if it’s not, you’re doing another one the next night. And it’s kind of . . . When you’re at a place like the Simpsons or something, you can sometimes forget, “Oh, that’s what I got into show business for.” Because I like to, you know, entertain and put stuff out there in front of an audience. I much prefer people.
Question: How do you write something for others bring it to life?
Transcript: It takes a certain amount of trust. And it depends on who you’re writing it for. There’s some people who you write . . . like for Jon Stewart or Phil Hartman or something where you write it and you know they’re going to make it better, and . . . and that’s a pleasure. And there are other people who aren’t going to make it better or who don’t see the joke. And I think when you’re a younger writer, that’s a bit more frustrating. Or . . . or it’s a bit harder to let go of the joke like that. And you’ve gotta sort of have write . . . written a million jokes and thrown out, you know, half a million jokes; and seen the other half butchered, you know, before you can just really not care. It . . . It’s . . . You care, but you’re a . . . You are . . . It’s a job. You crank these things out, and if it doesn’t go over well, you’ll just do another.
Question: What is the joy in what you do?
Transcript: It’s . . . it’s putting on a show. It’s really . . . it’s writing something. It’s, you know, all the stress. It’s kind of like a newsroom, and it’s running around. And you put on the show, and there’s an audience there, and they’re laughing, and then you’re done. You know and it’s really . . . And then you go at it again. It’s like . . . It’s like working at the circus. You know, like how fun is that?
Question: What does it feel like when the show is over?
Transcript: Such a relief. You know it’s . . . it’s not as stressful as you’d think because you get used to the . . . the rhythm. And it . . . it’s a tremendous relief. That said, you’re always doing another show the next day. So you can’t be that relieved. And one of the things . . . You know like we’ll get a week off here and there, two weeks off here and there. And I kind of find it hard to really enjoy those vacations in a way, because I know I’m gonna have to come back. There’s no . . . You know it never ends. It’s . . . It is a perpetual motion machine.
Question: What is the struggle in what you do?
Transcript: There is . . . they’re staying current, obviously. There’s wanting to make sure we are up-to-date on everything. But there’s also not wanting to . . . to replicate anything that’s been on another show. And then there’s always . . . You know we’re not a real news show. We’re not . . . We’re 99 percent a comedy show, but not strictly a comedy show. So . . . but we look at the news, and so a lot of it is going, “Okay. Well here’s a funny thing from the news, but how do we examine . . .” How do we . . . Instead of just taking a joke from something about the news and make a new joke of it, how do we examine how the other people in the news are covering it? You know it . . . it . . . it becomes this whole meta game of . . . it’s . . . it’s not about us making a joke about something the President said. It’s us making a joke about how CNN covered what the President said. It . . . It . . . I think the hardest part might be that, you know, producing a half an hour of material every night is making something new every night. It’s not repeating ourselves.
Question: How do you get past writer’s block?
Transcript: That’s a good question. I mean yeah. I can say I’m a craftsman; but then again you indulge in block. I mean that’s just an indulgence. You really just have to . . . to push through that. I don’t know. I’ll go walk the dog. I used to have a cigarette. I can’t do that anymore, so I’ll drink more coffee. I’ll curse myself. You know, just start typing something, anything, and you generally get through it. I . . . I . . . I . . . Blocks are generally just laziness.
Recorded on: 9/4/07