FEATURE

Anna Deavere Smith Gets into Character

One of today's leading actresses and playwrights, Anna Deavere Smith talks about how she finds her characters' souls.
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Description: Anna Deavere Smith once got some good advice from Ethel Merman's son, and it has stuck with her ever since.

Transcript: Well I’ve studied acting, and I’ve been teaching it for a long time. I’ve been teaching it formally since 1973, and I’ve taught in all kinds of places. And sometimes I’ve been required, as would be the case . . . not now in my career, but certainly earlier in my career . . . A faculty, you know . . . A faculty has to kind of achieve something as a group. And so a lot of times I’ve had to teach very traditional things – very traditional – and so I know a lot about the varieties of methods that there are for approaching acting. And I think the best thing I heard about it . . . The three best things I heard about acting was one, one of my teachers said that you can’t really talk about acting directly. Everything that we know to say is couched in metaphors. That’s number one. It’s not like teaching medicine, or teaching architecture, or even music because it has to do with identity. And we don’t really understand so much about it. It’s not something we can touch or feel. And the changes of identities have never been, for example, translated into . . . like music is translated into notes. We haven’t really translated what we do into something that can be constantly replicated with a result we can anticipate. So there’s something about it that’s a little mysterious.

 

Ethel Merman’s son . . . He was one of the most powerful teachers that I had. He said simply, you know, the actor’s gift is the imagination. And then one very practical and gifted teacher said, you know, acting is the ability to believe that you are someone else. So people have all different ways of talking about it, but the first comment I think is the most honest. It’s all couched in metaphors. And so I studied a variety of methods. People always made fun of me in acting school because I was always taking notes. But I was very interested in “what is this?” How is it again that people can change before my eyes? And along the way of my studying in acting, and also my teaching in acting, I began to see that my students sounded a lot alike. And so I wanted to show them that no human being talks like another human being. There are people who are identical. Like you can have an identical twin of your voice. Like there are people who sound exactly like a sibling in the tone of voice; but nobody talks alike. And so I thought that one place to study identity would be in the actual speech of a given person.

 

Originally I was going around interviewing people because I wanted to teach something about that – about individuality as it is captured in the actual physiological mechanism of making sounds. We are linguistic animals. And then along the lines of doing that, I’ve developed this method through which I make plays, which is I interview people, I take something that I said, and then I attempt to say exactly what they said more than word for word, but utterance per utterance. Because I have come to see that it’s the way in which the utterance themselves are manipulated that an idea then comes forward. So that’s what I’ve been studying and practicing for a very, very long time. And I have to say the thing that’s unquenchable about me is something I told you about earlier. What I really, really love to do is to listen to people and listen to stories. And so over the past, wow, I guess I have to admit it’s a little more than 30 years now, if I’ve been learning anything, it’s that I’ve been leaning more and more about listening. And I never get tired of it – never get tired.

 

Well the goal is to tell a story that has multiple points of view for the very reasons that we’ve been discussing; and to, by doing so, indicate on an artistic level that the old idea of the single . . . even the old idea of the single author, if you will, is flawed. Because it takes ultimately many people to tell the story of a community, or the story of a society. So that sense of the auguste author who can come in and speak for women and speak for men, I don’t believe that. There’s a lot . . . Maybe your imagination is sufficient; maybe not, you know? My imagination comes into play; but before doing that, I would like to know how a man feels, or how another woman feels about something. I’m studying that because I understand that I’m one human being with a set of experiences that color my lens. And I’ve always been – since I was a little girl – very interested in how that person across the town, across the street, how they think. And understanding I could never think like they think, but wanting to try to do something about that gap. Not even in a humanistic way. It was really something that bothered me. It was really something I worried about. So first of all I hope that by being present, as 46 people say in Twilight, the play about the Los Angeles riot, and playing a Korean woman whose store was burned to the ground by African-Americans; or playing one of the African-American kids who beat up the white man; or playing Daryl Gates, the very unpopular Chief of Police, then it suggests to an audience that they don’t have to sit in their one position. And by the way, you know when I come out at the end and take my curtain call, I’m still me. So did I really lose anything? No. In fact maybe I gained something. Aesthetically and artistically, what I’ve been trying to contribute is something about details that, you know, maybe there’s a wider variety of human beings than we thought about. And we can tell compelling stories without having to have those same stereotypes that we’ve been thinking about over and over again.

Recorded on: 8/15/07

 

 

 

 

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Description: Studying Shakespeare has given Deavere Smith a deeper understanding of language and character.

Transcript: I mean he first and foremost brings a very, very complex study of the human condition. And he can make you laugh and he can make you cry. And he can make you consider political realities in new ways. And he never dies. It’s always relevant. But for me, what was important about Shakespeare was the fact that it all was in the words. It was . . . all the action was in the words. All of . . . all of the humanity he was trying to share was in words. And in fact, you know, in words that were designed in a certain way. So I was interested in the design of Shakespeare’s words, and how that design led to anybody saying those words – a deeper understanding . . . a profound and deep understanding about the human being they were portraying. And in fact that led me directly to thinking that if I were to study the words of a so-called common walking man, and treat it and study it the way that I treated and studied Shakespeare, that I would find something inside of what we call a commonplace person which could be on the stage. And not really in that way that you say, “Truth is stranger than fiction,” but that someone in the course of an hour would come upon something that was so meaningful to them that it could be heroic; and that it could capture the attention of an audience. And so pretty much, you know, Shakespeare led me right to my experiment.

What I had was a question that occupied me for a very long time. So I can tell you what the question was, and I can tell you that even as I still practice around that question, it’s led me to another question that I don’t even know how to work on. But the question I’ve been trying to answer since the first time I ever picked up a Shakespearean text to speak it under the gaze of an authority on Shakespeare . . . I mean, you know, I had spoken some Shakespearean words in other informal ways; but the first time anybody was sort of ever listening to me attempt to speak in Shakespeare was in 1972 or something like that. And so the question that came from that was, “What is the relationship of language to identity?” And that’s what you and I have been talking about. And that question has occupied me for a long time. And now I have a new question, which is, “What is the gap between understanding and action? And what does it take to bridge that gap?” And I don’t know the answer to it, and that’s why . . . That’s the question that I suspect will occupy me now for some years.

Recorded on: 8/22/07

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