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Comment on: Re: What powers magnetism, subatomic particles, and gravity? Science, please.

Bigthink — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 07:54:25 +0100

Original title "What powers magnetism, subatomic particles, and gravity? Science, please."
It can be explained using the periodic table of elements. Elements are attracted/repel others due to the amount of electrons each one has. Thus the elements which make up a magnet are physically driven to attract/repel.

Comment on: Re: What powers magnetism, subatomic particles, and gravity? Science, please.

Bigthink — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 03:59:34 +0100

imayberight8,

Great question!

Proponents of M-Theory seek to explain the observed weakness of gravity, in comparison with the strength of the other fundamental forces, as sort of leaking into our dimension from another dimension where gravity is a much stronger force. Kind of a chinese doll scenario, but that's one of the prominent lines of thoughts on the matter.

Comment on: Re: What powers magnetism, subatomic particles, and gravity? Science, please.

Bigthink — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 03:48:43 +0100

gandolf07,

There are theories like this one: http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/white_hole_030917.html that push that notion.

Let's do some math...

Mass of the sun (M): ~ 2.0 x 10^30 kg
Mass of largest known black hole: ~ 18 x 10^9 billion solar masses (M) => ~ 36 x 10^39 kg
Mass of Milky Way galaxy 5.8 x 10^11 (M) => ~ 11.6 x 10^41 kg

So, clearly black holes can grow as large as average sized galaxies. But can they grow as large as our observable universe?

Mass of observable universe ~= 3 x 10^52 kg

Given that, it would take many billions times the mass of our largest known black hole to contain our observable universe. However, there is no theoretical limit to the size of a black hole. So, yes, possible.

Comment on: Re: What powers magnetism, subatomic particles, and gravity? Science, please.

Bigthink — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:53:22 +0100

I look at pictures of the universe, there is a light at the centre of it. If you get a needle, you can find the milky way. ok. If the centre was so bright why does the light not over power our sun? I found out there is no light. Now furthering the info. All the galaxies are moving away from each other because of the 'big bang'. What if the big bang was the oppisite end of a black hole. From somewhere else everything was crushed because a star exployed and a black hole was created, sucking everything in it. The big bang was the other end of that hole opening. All the particles that came thru to this side created planets, stars, moons and everything else. What do you think, possible?

Comment on: Re: What powers magnetism, subatomic particles, and gravity? Science, please.

Bigthink — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:30:39 +0100

I agree with some of the concepts above. Some, well??? Look at it this way. Keep in mind, when you're surfing, the board sits on the wave. You control the board by the force you apply to the sides of it, Right? Gravity is a 'wave' of "magnetic force", not just a force. If you place metal fibers on a piece of paper and the magnet under it, you see the magnetic bubble. Now, to possibly travel faster than the "speed of light" (so to speak) & further ideas/concepts. Have a craft at the centre of the magnetic bubble, increase the force and, travel on the surface of the "magnetic wave." Now your all saying what the hell is he talking about? With that concept, he just increases the magnetic force around the craft. Yes your right. But, "magnetic waves" are always there, just like the beach. Increasing the force allow's you to get on the surface of the wave, 'the moon in 5 minutes'. A stronger force applied on one side, gives you the ability to turn. And, the force you apply also increases the bubble strength on the outside of the craft, thus redirecting anything in your path; ie: shields. To further the idea. The centre of the bubble, where the craft is, is a netural area, just like a magnet. "Magnetic gravitional force" can be applied & controled giving the craft gravity the same as earth. Now this is just the basic concept. Eh.. just a thought, if it's looked at. Everything starts with a thought. Who knows!

Comment on: Re: What powers magnetism, subatomic particles, and gravity? Science, please.

Bigthink — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:25:16 +0100

First the question posed by imayberight8 is very deep, in fact the LHC or Large Hadron Collider is being built to "probe" a type of of subatomic particle called Higgs boson that is thought to be responsible to the creation of a field in time and space. And particles with move along according to its own mass and to the distribution of Higgs Bosons (these bosons form a scalar field).
If the Higgs Boson is found on the LHC it will provide a great insight in how gravity work, a step toward a quantum theory of gravity.

Comment on: Re: What powers magnetism, subatomic particles, and gravity? Science, please.

Bigthink — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:41:51 +0100

That may be so, but we have no proof that it is not so with smaller objects too. Logically it would follow that it must because if it were not then at what size of an object would the line be drawn that it does not have a gravitational field.

Comment on: Re: What powers magnetism, subatomic particles, and gravity? Science, please.

Bigthink — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 23:38:03 +0100

What exact proof do we have that gravity occurs between objects that aren't large celestial bodies? None, that I know of, most would likely be theory, we need to test the gravity of a small object some how.

Comment on: Re: What powers magnetism, subatomic particles, and gravity? Science, please.

Bigthink — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 04:56:20 +0100

Thats all well and good but it isn't just some gravimetric occurance within planets and suns. All matter in the universe has a corresponding gravitational field. The only catch is that the amount of gravity depends on the amount of mass.

Comment on: Re: What powers magnetism, subatomic particles, and gravity? Science, please.

Bigthink — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 03:48:26 +0100

You are right, there is a large question here that no one, with current understanding of the universe, can answer. What power gravity is the big question. Think about all the energy that massive produce in gravity, enough pressure on the sun to start fusion. Einsteins warped space time does explain it but then we have another question, what powers the force that moves bodies into warped space time? In the analogy of the trampoline the force is gravity, now its like a loop...

Isn't much more likely that a bodies gravity would be powered by it's core? Maybe the core of planets and the sun create a gravimetric field that we can't see or measure yet made of particles we don't understand yet...

Comment on: Re: What powers magnetism, subatomic particles, and gravity? Science, please.

Bigthink — Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:26:33 +0100

The elementary analogy that is most often given to understand gravity is the (very simplified) trampoline. Imagine a trampoline that represents the fabric of space and time. If a mass is placed on the trampoline, the fabric warps around the mass. Then, when another mass passes by, the effect that the original mass has on remote space causes the observed motion at a distance. Thus, in a nutshell, mass distorts space and time over a distance, and affects other objects. It is not that the object is in direct contact with other things, but that since the fabric of space is warped, the objects continues its straight-line motion, but now what is straight and non-accelerated, is not.

Additionally, you can look up ideas on particle physics such as gravitions, photons, higgs paticles, ect. The main concept is that fundamentally there exists only force field and affected particles.