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Comment on: Re: Jesus

Bigthink — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 01:51:19 +0100

Well vorr, provide this ample evidence then???

Comment on: Re: Jesus

Bigthink — Fri, 23 May 2008 04:46:24 +0100

The conventional historical analysis requirement to demonstrate the actual existence of an historical figure is two contemporaneous citations. Jesus has zero. He is not mentioned until three decades after his alleged death. If we are to use citations in the "books of belief" to demonstrate an individual's existence, then there is far more evidence for Herakles than for Jesus.

Comment on: Re: Jesus

Bigthink — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 00:12:26 +0100

Given the fuss his followers made of him, it's amazing that only a couple of scant mentions in Josephus are all he could independantly manage? Given that the Egyptian God Horus shares heaps of similarities with the JC myth, then just as the Xtians appropriated the notions of heaven and hell from the Egyptians, they obviously took the bits of the Horus story they fancied. History will force the figure of Jesus (maybe a composite of several holy men from the era) into a total re-imagining once the Dead Sea scrolls and Nag Hamadi gospels are integrated into the actual historical analysis.
And no matter how you cut it, gentle Jesus still insisted you subscribe to the hateful Old Testament and his appalling 'father' God figure the Jews followed, and still do.
Of course, never let the facts get in the way of a good story?

Comment on: Re: Jesus

Bigthink — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:22:48 +0100

Outside the bible there is only one reference to jesus in history. I also think he probably existed, but how much of what most would consider "jesus" has to be taken away before he is no longer considered the same person? If he wasn't the son of god, if he didn't preform miracles, say he didn't even die on the cross (only proof in the gospels), is he still jesus? If george washington wasn't a general in the US army during the revolutionary war, or wasn't the US's first president, or didn't have wooden teeth, is he really the man we think of him as?

Comment on: Re: Jesus

Bigthink — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:14:27 +0100

Wrong. There is ample proof thayt jesus was
real. He may or may not have been the son of god, but there is a record of his existance.