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Bigthink — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:57:08 +0100

ok sounds good...

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Bigthink — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:49:39 +0100

Jesse what say you to the continuation of posting and discussing scripture in another topic? I feel the need to do this more often, I have never been a regular to a Bible study, and I think this is the perfect forum... I'll set up the idea...

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Bigthink — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 04:58:01 +0100

From the first letter of Paul addressing the church in Corinth...

1 Corinthians 13 (NIV):
[the subtext notes are included in brackets]

If I speak in the tongues [or languages] of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames,[some early manuscripts "body that I may boast,"] but have not love, I gain nothing.

Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part, but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears. When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.

And now these three remain: faith, hope, and love. But the greatest of these is love.

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Bigthink — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:18:26 +0100

musyscs-where i have dismissed anything from the old test.?

you used big words, you must be smart! ...or you have a pocketbook Thesaurus...

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Bigthink — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 01:40:35 +0100

Jesse,
You are an earnest young man, but I feel your energies are mis-placed. Given that you put so much store in this turgid text, I wonder if you might expand your reading to some of the actual history of the times and start to contextualise your assesments? You are bright enough to know that anyone can justify anything from that
putrid pile of meanderings, and the fact that you seem to dismiss the Old T in some of your other musings means you are as guilty of selectivity as all the others.

So in short which bits should I put my 'faith' in and which not? and why should I believe your version as opposed to anyone else's? You can't even get agreement amongst the 3 Abrahamic cults (Jews, Xtians and Muslims)as to who is 'right'. You are a Jesus-centric Xtian for reasons of culture not for any other reason. If you were born on the other side of the world, JC would not get a look in with you, you'd be looking for 'meaning'elsewhere. There's great truth and beauty in the universe, and precious little is to be found in the neanderthal drivel that seems to magically transform into profundities to you when read through the prism of faith. Good luck on your search... you'll need it.

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Bigthink — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 07:07:40 +0100

So, because Jesus was doing these things on the Sabbath, the Jews persecuted him. Jesus said to them, "My Father is always at his work to this very day, and I, too, am working." For this reason the Jews tried all the harder to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.

Jesus gave them this answer: "I tell you the truth, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does. For the Father loves the Son and shows him all he does. Yes, to your amazement he will show him even greater things than these. For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, even so the Son gives life to whom he is pleased to give it. Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son, that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father, who sent him.

"I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life. I tell you the truth, a time is coming and has now come when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God and those who hear will live. For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son to have life in himself. And he has given him authority to judge because he is the Son of Man.

"Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice and come out--those who have done good will rise to live, and those who have done evil will rise to be condemned. By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.

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Bigthink — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:26:43 +0100

I quite agree. It is very surprising that very popular quotes from the bible supposed to mean one thing mean exactly the opposite when you read the context of only a few verses.

But this is human nature. Compare it with the ommnipresent: "Lindbergh was the first to cross the Atlantic in a plane."

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Bigthink — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 03:22:12 +0100

I am vaguelly familiar with the bible, and have read certain sections. I often use what jesus said with reguard to the poor, and wht whole "a rich man is unlikley to enter heaven" to argue a socialist government system to christians. I dont think jeseus was the son of god but he said some very pointfull things.