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Comment on: The fairer question: Faith? Evidence please.

Bigthink — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:56:01 +0100

Two thousands years ago, after both his own people and the Gentiles refused obedience to his Promise in sufficient numbers, God set a trap for highest of human pretensions and hubris with the Bible and other scriptural materials in generals. Then stood back from human history. Not only is the bible incomplete, but is not a revelation and cannot be 'interpreted' by anyone without a revelation. Thus do dogma, doctrine and fundamentalism exist. That being said, the end times begin by the exposure of 2000 years of reasoned ignorance called theology and tradition, the measure of just how far humankind can stray from truth by the debasement of the human condition called the Stain of Orginal sin.

Exposed by the first living and testable proof of God for faith to exist in human history, the first ever viable religious conception capable of leading reason, by faith, to observable consequences and evidence which can be tested and judged for its reality.

As Dante wrote:

For as I turned there greeted mine likewise
What all behold who contemplate aright
that's heaven's revolution through the skies.

Already starting: http://www.energon.org.uk

Comment on: The fairer question: Faith? Evidence please.

Bigthink — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 03:09:31 +0100

well... a rose is a rose is a rose..
c'est la vie and bon chance.

Comment on: The fairer question: Faith? Evidence please.

Bigthink — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 02:47:40 +0100

that's okay, you've already de-evolved the conversation to less than interesting.

Comment on: The fairer question: Faith? Evidence please.

Bigthink — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 02:05:29 +0100

Of course! .. but c'mon in, the waters fine... regardless of the prattle factor. you may have noticed I am not thin-skinned... I doubt you are too.

Comment on: The fairer question: Faith? Evidence please.

Bigthink — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 01:56:12 +0100

lol...well, that's what you think.

Comment on: The fairer question: Faith? Evidence please.

Bigthink — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 00:31:10 +0100

Whitless.. if your intention is to disappear into pedantry and definitional nuance and never get your feet wet, carry on, or get into academia where you belong... it's irrelevant how many use this site or not, or whether you think there are no original ideas.
your stating that humans think they are superior is also irrelevant.. there is only us, here now, banging on about the abstract or tangible... isn't that enough?

The idea here is to spark conversation (sometimes argumentative) and light up some synapses.

Comment on: The fairer question: Faith? Evidence please.

Bigthink — Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:43:17 +0100

mysucks, I don't find any progressive purpose in asking an unanswerable question such as,%u201D God, Evidence please"?
Especially when the only thing that can be proved is one's choice and/or justification 'to believe' or 'have faith' and that is done with certain amounts of knowledge and comforting ignorance.

Again, as stated elsewhere, Bigthink is populated by less than 9,000 ideas to-date, and it's estimate-able that thousands more, even tens of thousands, of individuals have visited this site, and for whatever reason decided not to participate. I imagine one contributing variable is the manipulative and/or agenda based 'prattle' that is so prevalent in this wondrous concept, i.e. the virtual world of communication. Within and well beyond bigthink.com

If humans (individuals)were as superior as claim, they would shut-up more, becoming more open to unending experience and accumulation of knowledge (cognizant of the very small portion of the human mind/brain accessed for current evolutionary use.

There are few, if any, original questions to be asked or totally original ideas to be posted. I strive to not waste any one else's time or (positive) efforts if I can help it within my human limitation.

Our species is short-lived, yet we are masters of denial of the inevitable and our true limitations.

Comment on: The fairer question: Faith? Evidence please.

Bigthink — Wed, 02 Apr 2008 09:06:05 +0100

Whitman,
Again with the re-writing lark?
You are full of ideas, let's have them direct.
There is no evidence for God (as you well know)and you are smart enough to know when an atheist is baiting the faithful... and evidence for faith? as it is of a search for meaning, is so ubiquitous as to render your re-write superfluous at best.

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Bigthink — Tue, 01 Apr 2008 00:11:01 +0100

'direct individual intervention into the natural world'? and from what I see, you've derived all this from the old Jewish/Xtian texts? mate, don't keep this to yourself.. tell the Pope et al, he could use some 'proof'.
maybe hop back on board that spaceship my friend!

Comment on: The fairer question: Faith? Evidence please.

Bigthink — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:32:36 +0100

synthesis, metaphorically, interpretation, justification? How would one test and confirm based on such limitations?

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Bigthink — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:30:14 +0100

The quotes from above were taken from an OVI review of a new interpretation of the moral teachings of Christ titled: The Final Freedoms. It is circulating on the web and a free pdf copy of the teaching and proof is available at a growing number of links including: http://www.energon.org.uk

Comment on: The fairer question: Faith? Evidence please.

Bigthink — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:23:45 +0100

How is this for evidence:

"Using a synthesis of scriptural material from the Old and New Testaments, the Apocrypha , The Dead Sea Scrolls, The Nag Hammadi Library, and some of the worlds great poetry, it describes and teaches a single moral LAW, a single moral principle offering the promise of its own proof; one in which the reality of God responds to an act of perfect faith with a direct, individual intervention into the natural world; correcting human nature by a change in natural law, altering biology, consciousness and human ethical perception beyond all natural evolutionary boundaries. Understood metaphorically, this experience of transcendent power and change is the 'Resurrection' and justification of faith."

"This is the first ever viable religious conception capable of leading reason, by faith, to observable consequences which can be tested and judged; a teaching able to demonstrate its own efficacy; the first ever religious claim of knowledge that meets the criteria of verifiable, evidence based truth embodied in action. For the first time in history, a religious tenet exists offering access, by faith, to absolute proof for its belief."

And I have alrealdy tested and confirmed it!

And