Dov Zakheim: They get jaded. I’ve seen all too many come in bright-eyed and bushy-tailed, 24, 25, 28, 30. And then they just get worn down. And so by the time they’re 40, they’re thinking about the pension that they could qualify for when they’re 55. You have a lot of dedicated public servants, but you have a lot of these others. And the trick is to give them something meaningful to do. It may . . . I personally think our government’s still too big. It may mean getting rid of maybe 25% of our bureaucrats; but the other 75% have to be given something meaningful. They don’t all have that.

Recorded on: 7/2/07