Reponses to: Re: What is justice?

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Kenneth Roth

Uploaded on 12/31/2007

Description: Beyond what is in the U.S. Constitution, economic and social rights.

Transcript: When I think of justice, I think of something that’s not all that much different from respect for individual rights. Now in this respect though, I speak not simply about the civil and political rights that for, I think, many Americans are conjured up by the concept of rights. It’s not simply the rights that are in the U.S. Constitution that is to say, but also some basic economic justice. Some basic respect for what are known as . . . as economic and social rights in the international realm. But that is to say at the minimum, the provision of the necessities of life – the housing, the food, the medical care and like – that allow people to exist and live with some basic dignity. So I do think that with that holistic concept of rights, that there’s not all that much difference between justice and respect for rights. But I do think to . . . to equate the two, you have to move beyond the more procedurally oriented rights of, say, the U.S. Constitution – the civil and political rights – and look at some of the more substantive rights of . . . of what are known as economics and social rights.

Recorded on: 8/14/07

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Re: Re: What is justice?

bill brueckner

If Mr. Roth would invest more time to study the Constitution, I believe that everthing from Martin Luthers King's economic equality to basic human rights are protected within the bill of rights even when vested in the people by state constitution as states rights.

Read the 9th and 10th amendments we are three jurisdictions federal limited rights and powers, states limited rights and powers and the rights and powers of the people. We are not subjects of the government. As the 5th amendment states nor deprived of life, liberty or property, without due process. You can never lose your rights and powers unless as part of the penalty for the conviction of a crime against another.

An important fact that even justice Briar left out is that our nation is a republic along with the states that are guaranteed the right to the republican form of government by the US Constitution. Law rules not the president, congress or legislatures or governors. People as vested with supreme power, they merely represent.

The founders showed wisdom beyond what this society chooses to see and there are none so blind as those that will not see.

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Grandpa

Justice is often framed in a legal perspective as a set of punitive rules for punishing "wrongdoers", a very limited view and one that doesn't define the total concept.

Justice, I believe, requires the recognition that the entire human race is one family and that all of us are responsible for the welfare of our family. The reality that today, millions of people are starving, homeless and suffering from incredible violence and war is the most obvious sign that we are not aware of what justice is or belive that it isn't possible.

Greed is the greatest obstacle to experiencing justice on our planet home. It has reached immense levels, especially in the corporate world where governments and entire nations are now controlled by this greed. There are some exceptions now, where a few corporate giants are beginning to recognize social responsibility in their work. People need to demand more of this attitude.

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